Reader Question: How bad is my SUV?
Filed under: MPG, AutoblogGreen Exclusive, Green Daily

2008 Honda Element
We get a lot of interesting emails in the AutoblogGreen inbox. Some of them provide good tips or lead us to stories of people doing amazing things. Some just make us laugh. And some just ask us a question we're just not able to help (no, I can't tell you how to order ethanol in Africa. Sorry). A message we got today is a blend - part good idea for a post, part need more info. Here's the note from reader Kelsey:
I have a 2006 Honda Element. I'm trying to find any information available about how bad my SUV is for the environment, according to how much I drive and how I use it, etc. I keep finding articles that deal with the "greenest" cars, even the ones that are the worst, but not a lot about specific cars like mine. Any suggestions on where to look? Thanks for the help!
It's not hard to find sites that take SUVs to task - and with good reason. For most people, these giant rides are just overkill and a more reasonable vehicle should certainly be on their radar. Still, while we're not interested in the anti-SUV sites right now; we should also shy away from the types of stories that say a Hummer is better than a Prius. That's just not true.
In Kelsey's case, the best place to start is the Element's miles per gallon. This is one of the areas where we have the numbers available. According to the EPA, a 2006 Element with 2WD, an automatic 4 speed transmission and the 4 cyl, 2.4 L gets 19/24mpg city/highway (the manual gets 19/23 and and the 4WD versions are similar). As Kelsey writes, how much the vehicle is driven and the driving style plays a huge role in the Element's impact on the environment. But for now, let's stick to the averages. Kelsey, feel free to chime in with a comment to let us know how accurate these numbers are. Read more after the jump.
So, the DOE has this handy kids' page that lays out some average statistics in an easy-to-understand fashion. The average American car is driven down the road over 12,000 miles each year. Using the combined mpg rating for the 2006 Element of 21mpg, that comes to 517 gallons a year. Another U.S. government page, this one from the EPA and not very kid-friendly, has a calculation to determine how much CO2 is emitted per gallon of gasoline: 19.4 pounds. So, 571 gallons times 19.4 pounds means 11,077 pounds of CO2 per year. Driving Green says that this is as much carbon as is "stored in 128 tree seedlings grown for 10 years." Another way to look at it is that those 11,000 pounds (5.5 tons) is about how much CO2 is emitted by five passengers (on a per-passenger average) on a flight from NYC to LA, according to Carbon Planet's calculator. So, in the big picture, the Element's annual emissions are not that great - this isn't an Escalade, after all - but there are still lots of ways to reduce them and reduce the vehicle's impact on the invironment.
Go on a lot of short trips? Hop on the bike or walk. Combine trips. And start driving a bit more green by going at your own slow pace - learn to ignore the honks and stares. Since Kelsey's Element is fairly new, it's much more efficient than an average car from five or ten years ago, especially considering all of the added features that it has in comparison to older vehicles (more air bags, etc.). For this reason, there's a case to be made for keeping the Element instead of ditching it for another vehicle, a hybrid perhaps. The most important question is if the Element is the right size for your needs. How much of the SUV's cargo space is regularly used? Would a Prius or even an efficient larger sedan fit the bill? Would getting a highly-efficient scooter or investing in a car sharing program meet your needs just as well most of the time? There's a lot of unknowns here, but we can guess that some improvements can be made.
As to the question about which sites give some straight-up information about Kelsey's Element's role in global warming, I like those government sites linked to above. If you have your own favorites, let us - and especially Kelsey - know in the comments section.












Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
7-08-2008 @ 8:59PM
Luke said...
Any answer to the question is relative. The use of *any* vehicle is bad for the environment, since even if it used solar energy, it would require energy to make the vehicle and build the roads it drove on. Hopefully, the vehicle is no bigger than what the driver needs it to be, and the vehicle is driven no more than necessary.
The false reasoning to avoid is that if you buy a particular vehicle you are actually "saving the environment."
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7-08-2008 @ 9:10PM
Kfleming said...
Believe it or not, there really are some "green" SUVs, and in the next year we should see a lot more, because for some people who need a large vehicle (they may have a large family) downgrading to a Toyota Prius just isn't an option.
If you don't have the option of moving to something smaller, this list may help..
http://www.thegreenmotorist.com/index.php/20-most-fuel-efficient-suvs/
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7-08-2008 @ 10:56PM
diffrunt said...
keep whut u got, but find ways to reduce your usage. there should be an exchange program for jobs closer to home.
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7-09-2008 @ 12:10AM
Wildgoosechase said...
Another factor to consider is the carbon used to transport the SUV to the dealer. Ships use the dirtiest form of deisel with no regulations on their emmisions. I'd look for something with the hightest US content to aviod being in the carbon hole right out of the gate.
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7-09-2008 @ 1:22AM
philmcneal said...
not all SUVS are created equal
for example if you look up the tahoe two mode hybrid emissions its only rated LEV2 i believe, but the MPG is 20/20 for 4wd version lets say
however
toyota new sequoia is only rated 14/21 in the EPA BUT it comes with four catalytic converters (two for operating temperature, and two for cold starts) so it makes it a SULEV....
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7-09-2008 @ 1:40AM
Jimmy said...
The EPA's http://www.fueleconomy.gov site has lots of good info, including petroleum consumption, CO2 emissions and air pollution scores. You can easily compare vehicles and customize fuel prices to your area.
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7-09-2008 @ 2:45AM
armmat said...
There is no point whatsoever to upgrade to a more efficient car unless you completely decommission the old car you are replacing.
If you buy a Prius by getting rid of a huge SUV, what's the point? Some other jacka$$ is going to buy that SUV from you and it's STILL going to be on the road.
I drive a Ford Focus...and I've decided that if or when I purchase another car that is hopefully a hybrid, I will remove my vehicle from the road....I'm not going to just sell it to the next person. I will junk it.
No, I'm not rich....but I'm willing to do try and do my part...something most people are not.
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7-09-2008 @ 10:30AM
RIck said...
Simple. Make sure it goes to scrape.
7-09-2008 @ 2:08PM
Seth said...
What? Scrap the car when you're done with it instead of sell it used? That doesn't make sense.
Use of the car is part of the lifetime emissions, but the manufacture and transportation of a new car is another. If you scrap your old (still driveable) car, this is (in theory) forcing someone to buy a new car instead of your used car. That increases the amount of fuel used to mine the raw materials, create steel and plastics, and form them into a new car, as well as the emissions from the mining operation, the smelter, and the factories where the parts are assembled and built.
In addition, your old car might just end up on a pile somewhere leaking oil and battery acid and leaching petroleum by-products into the soil. How is that helpful to the environment?
Now, if you KNEW your car would be immediately recycled and re-used in a new car, that's a bit better. But, even then, the recycling process is using fuel and emitting greenhouse gases to turn your scrap metal and plastic into useable materials.
It's not like the car just disappears when you "scrap" it. If it's still driveable, make some repairs on it to make sure it's still running well, and put it back on the market. My old 92 Accord is still running great, gets almost as good mileage as it did when it was new, and will (hopefully) keep running another 5 to 10 years. In the meantime, maybe I'll be able to upgrade it with something like this: http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/05/07/who-else-thinks-the-poulsen-hybrid-is-the-sleeper-team-to-win-th/
7-09-2008 @ 6:28AM
Cristian said...
Well, he should just simply check his fuel consumption for his average trip. If he really wants to, he can even keep a spreadsheet of how much fuel he consumes during a month, and the distance he drives, and then compare it to the official numbers from the EPA.
I live in Europe, and as it has been noticed by many, including journalists, some cars have a similar consumption as in the official EU cycle, and other fare even 60% worse in terms of fuel economy. This is of course all reported to liters per 100 km, which might be an easier to understand measurement for fuel economy, then mpg. For what it's worth, he should use gallons per 100 miles.
He should also compare the results with similar vehicles. By this, I am not referring just to other SUV, but maybe a sedan, a wagon, or any other car which could serve his needs just as well as his current. In the end, what is a car good for, if you can't afford to pay the gas to drive it. Screw the cool factor of an SUV, and get a car which you can finance.
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7-09-2008 @ 7:21AM
Bill said...
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2006_Honda_Element.shtml
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7-09-2008 @ 7:37AM
Rick said...
So, the DOE has this handy kids' page that lays out some average statistics in an easy-to-understand fashion. The average American car is driven down the road over 12,000 miles each year. Using the combined mpg rating for the 2006 Element of 21mpg, that comes to 517 gallons a year.
You got your math wrong in this sentence. You corrected it later in the article, but you may wish to do so here as well to prevent any confusion.
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7-09-2008 @ 8:49AM
Christine Smith said...
Don't forget this handy website:
http://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/Index.do;jsessionid=8230da10aa1010a12247
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7-09-2008 @ 9:10AM
Matthew said...
I have a 2007 Honda Element 4WD Auto. The EPA for that year was 21 city/26 highway now it is 19 city/ 24 highway.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorCompareSideBySide.jsp?column=1&id=23792
I regularly get between 23 and 27. The Element is a great vehicle. I actually use the 4WD and the cargo that it can carry. I hate it when people just get a truck or an SUV and never use it for what it is actually made for.
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7-09-2008 @ 4:54PM
JH said...
I had a 2003 Honda Element EX 2WD 5 speed manual.
You can hit 24mpg in it...however, that's if you go 65 and keep it's square face with less wind resistance. At the time I averaged 21mpg. What really got me riled up was driving around town and getting 18-19mpg.
Check http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums I was member docgoku on there for a while. The MPG issue is big for this particular small SUV.
7-09-2008 @ 6:05PM
Matthew said...
The manual Element does get worse MPG's than the auto. Plus for 2007 the Element got a 5-Speed auto upgrade from the 4-speed auto. It gave it a 2 mile up for the highway and 1 for the city. I mainly drive highway and gravel/dirt roads and city every once in a while. No stop and go though.
I love this car though. Their is no other car on the road with its unique look. The space inside is amazing and every time I carpool with my friends they pick my car because it is so roomy. The cargo that it can swallow up is also very amazing. I think for every thing that this car excels at, it is worth the mid-20's MPG.
7-09-2008 @ 9:13AM
Frylock350 said...
There are ways to be greener without changing your vehicle. Buy a decent bicycle (mine's a Trek i got for $200) and a backpack. Anywhere I need to go that's within 5 miles of home I take my bike. That covers nearly all of my shopping for groceries, etc. This type of driving is the most wasteful, plus biking is a great stress reliever.
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7-09-2008 @ 10:49AM
MikeRochip said...
"I've decided that if or when I purchase another car that is hopefully a hybrid, I will remove my vehicle from the road....I'm not going to just sell it to the next person. I will junk it."
Thus forcing the poor guy who would have bought your Ford Focus to keep driving his old Chevy Suburban?
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7-09-2008 @ 11:13AM
me2 said...
Some pretty radical responses here !
Don't buy a new car because it takes energy to build it ? The same could be said for your house and computer ! I think we agree that most of us need a vehicle for transportation. Not buying one is not an option.
The energy used to transport a vehicle, even overseas, is a small fraction of what it uses in its lifetime.
I think buying a new/more efficient vehicle is good for the environment. Scrapping your old vehicle prematurely just means that someone else is going to keep an older polluting vehicle or buy a new one themselves.
I am disappointed in the fuel economy figures for the Element. 24 MPG on the highway is no quite low for the utility of that vehicle. A Ford Edge or a Cadillac CTS get about the same or better fuel economy.
A lot of people brag about how great the fuel efficieny of Honda/Toyota vehicles is. What they usually mean is their small cars, ie Civics et al. When you get up to the larger, comparable vehicles, like the Ridgeline, for example, they aren't so great. The Element demonstrates this nicely.
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7-09-2008 @ 6:05PM
Gary Reysa said...
Hi,
I like this calculator to compare CO2 emissions for any two cars:
http://www.hybridcars.com/calculator/
It gives you fuel use, CO2 emissions, gas costs, ... for whatever miles driven per year you put in.
We had a go at reducing our total carbon emissions for heating, water heating, electricity, and transportation, and have managed to get down to 40% of what we used to use with a really good return on the money we invested. There are lots of ways to reduce emissions and save money. I mention this because the biggest single change we made that accounted nearly half of out total reduction in CO2 was going from a Subaru Outback (an efficient and small SUV) to a Prius -- so what car you drive can make a big difference.
Its also a really nice all around car that in many ways is nicer to live with than the Outback was -- not really as "sacrifice" at all.
http://www.builditsolar.com/References/Half/Half.htm
http://www.builditsolar.com/References/Half/ProjectsTransport.htm
Gary
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