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"Many farmers in Canada only plan to use low-protein wheat or damaged crops which are not suitable as food"

Nonsense! They will sell all the good wheat along with the bad if the price is right. If you don't think this is true, I have a bridge to sell you cheap in NY.

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On a global basis rising grain prices may not be bad, it would encourage food production in third world countries rather than drug crops.

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Rising grain prices is disastrous for developing nations. The crop is worth more as feedstock for biofuels, and people who can't afford a tripling in prices go hungry. It's happening already.

And, no, Afghanistan isn't going to pull up the poppies and plant wheat and soybeans in its place.

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Horrible idea...plants which humans eat should not be used as fuel for cars.

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They should pass a law prohibiting food for fuel.

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They should pass a law prohibiting plants as fuel.

Considering plants all use the same primary resources.

Topsoil, Water, Phosphorous, Nitrogen, Potassium

If all the farmland in the US, and all the fertlizers got displaced to make food. Do you honestly think that would have no impact on food?

Besides which, plants are amazingly inefficient at capturing sunlight into energy.
http://www.sandia.gov/news/resources/releases/2008/solargrid.html
http://greyfalcon.net/sugarsolar

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Nonsense!

Ethanol only makes sense when it is produced from:

1) waste products that are not already recycled into animal feed or other commercial products like mulch, fiberboard, fertilizer etc.

2) low maintenance, non food PERENNIAL plant species that do NOT require replanting, fertilizing, irrigation or pesticides such as switchgrass.

3) high yield plant species like algae that can be cheaply produced on land that is not otherwise useful for growing food crops.

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For you non-farmers out there, Wheat is given grading based on quality, so it is entirely possible for the 'bad' quality to be used for fuel (and pay higher prices than farmers would normally get for crops).

Western Canada also uses wheat instead of corn for animal feed, and since the byproduct of ethanol production is a high protein feed, feedlots will be happy.

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Skid666, Is wheat an annual or is it a perennial? Does it require replanting, fertilizing, irrigation or pesticides? Can the lower grades of wheat be used for animal feed or other food products to support life? Is the ENTIRE plant used to make ethanol? What is the ethanol density per acre?

Most importantly… Does wheat ethanol require tax money redistribution or tariffs to be profitable to the farmer or ethanol producer?

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==1) waste products that are not already recycled into animal feed or other commercial products like mulch, fiberboard, fertilizer etc.==

Except thats not "waste".
http://greyfalcon.net/peaksoil

And what little "real" waste there is, is inconsequential. Less than inflating our tires better.

==2) low maintenance, non food PERENNIAL plant species that do NOT require replanting, fertilizing, irrigation or pesticides such as switchgrass.==

Bull.
http://www.stopbp-berkeley.org/CellulosicBiofuels.pdf

==3) high yield plant species like algae that can be cheaply produced on land that is not otherwise useful for growing food crops.==

Also Bull.
http://algae-thermodynamics.blogspot.com/2007/03/how-can-one-not-like-greenfuel.html
greyfalcon.net/algae5

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