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"No doubt hydrogen is not the total solution, but it is one part of it."

Since when?

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Why do gm or toyota don't install themself at least one hydrogen fueling station somewhere near one of their car dealership. They ask the devil to help them( goverment and big oil) ??? If they install just one hydrogen fueling station with the cheapest but sufficient technology for producing hydrogen at the re-fueling station then it will pave the way for that kind of new business. Im sure that for 30 000$ they can install one of the electrolyser that itm compagny in england have invented lately. They just have to add a high pressure pump to boost pressure fron 250 pounds to 10 000 p.s.i because the itm machine go to just 250 p.s.i. All in all an expence of maybe 60 000$ to 100 000$ per refueling station plus their enormous administration fees of a gigantic bureaucracy plus the municipal approvals plus some garanties for security in case of accidents plus numerous studies of feasibility then for a cost of 40 millions they can maybe flow the black market instead with 4 watts small water electrolysers with bicycle hand pump and you fill your brand new fuelcell car in 5-6 hours at home in the night when the police and neibours is not watching too much. These bureaucrats drive me crazy.

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Or, they could just, you know, use batteries, and thus save purchase price, operating costs, and use 1/4 to 1/3 the amount of energy. Or whatever.

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The only people who can't seem to grasp the MANY problems with H2 are those politicians, businesses and special interest groups who will profit from the tax money redistribution. I lay the blame squarely on the shoulders of the Democratic-Socialists & Neo-Con thieves, thieves, tramps and thieves...

If we obeyed instead of “interpreted” the law (US Constitution, Amendment 10) there would be NO REDISTRIBUTION and FAR less taxes.

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Plus H2 is a TERRORIST target on every corner( worse then gas ).

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Mike: Some people will find that to be hyperbole, but really, you're absolutely right. When it would be so trivial for an end-user to vent such a readily combustible fuel the air (fuel-air mixture), you're not just asking for terrorism; you're asking for highly destructive teenage pranks all over the country. Even if the stations can be secured -- not just the big underground tanks, but everything though the filling nozzles and even automatic shutoffs if someone tries to tap into the filling line -- if you have 300 miles worth of hydrogen in your car, I don't care how efficient that vehicle is, that's an awful lot of destructive force if someone chooses to unleash it at once.

Gasoline is a real pain to make "explode", and it doesn't even really explode -- it's generally just a moderate speed deflagration. Hydrogen, on the other hand, really explodes, and can even *detonate* -- *without confinement*.

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please we need to innovate and get away , the more we strive toward new technology the better it will get

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Sounds like some top execs at Toyota are like some top execs at GM - they haven't got a clue as to which technology is best, so they are trying a little bit of everything.

Some auto execs know buisness, not engineering or science, and may not realize all the things wrong with hydrogen. Of course, the auto engineers working on hydrogen cars don't tell their bosses it is too expensive to work, as that could mean the end of their jobs.

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