Interview with Steve Fambro from Aptera Motors
Filed under: Diesel, EV/Plug-in, Hybrid, Solar, AutoblogGreen Exclusive, Aptera
If you read our previous update regarding the Aptera, you already know that the company is now taking deposits on their futuristic three-wheeled machine. I was able to get in contact with Steve Fambro, the man behind the Aptera, and I'll share some design and technical details in this post. With production of the Aptera expected to start in October, there are still some details that must remain confidential. But, the good news is that you are likely to get more information here than you've gotten anywhere else up to this point. Steve believes that aerodynamics will start to shape our vehicles in the future much more than they do now. Many who see the Aptera believe it looks much like an airplane, and this is no coincidence -- it's because the shape has been honed by the wind. So, in a way, Steve believes that the introduction of the Aptera marks a jump into the future of automotive design in more ways than just the alternative powertrain.
For the details on this exciting alternative to your mainstream automotive market, click past the break!
Regarding the powertrain, expect to see a hybrid model sporting a diesel engine to go along with the electric motor. When considering the fuel mileage of this particular vehicle, consumers will need to change their assumptions on what a car is capable of. When the machine is first underway, all power will be provided by the batteries which received their charge from a standard home outlet. Therefore, for many, no gasoline will be used at all on an average day's drive. If your travel plans require a longer trip, that's OK too because the diesel engine will kick in to charge the batteries and give you the power you need to keep traveling.
Moving on to the design of the vehicle, both the interior and exterior were not just shaped for aerodynamics, although that was of paramount importance. The Aptera team brought on Jason Hill with eleven design ELEVEN, LLC, and Nathan Armstrong, an engineer, to work with Aptera's team of aerodynamicists and engineers. Together, their goal was to make the vehicle a good place to spend time in, not a "penalty box" that you felt forced to drive. Take a look at all of the pictures of the interior and exterior and let us know if you think they met their goal (Hint: they did).
Safety was going to take priority over all else in the design, according to Fambro. In order to achieve the level of safety that consumers expect and deserve, the Aptera features crumple zones of 45 inches, quite large for a vehicle this size. Also in use inside the vehicle is airbag-in-seatbelt technology. The doors and roof exceed all specifications required by law. In addition, all of the glass used in the vehicle is automotive-grade safety glass.
Getting into some of the more technical bits and pieces of the design, the solar panels on the roof are tied in with the on-board batteries, so when the vehicle is parked in the sun, you are slowly charging your car. Even better is the air-conditioning system, which is powered by the solar cells and keeps the vehicle a reasonable temperature even when nobody is inside. The suspension systems were all designed using computer assistance to make them strong enough while maintaining the light weight necessary for the vehicle. Those suspension systems are similar in design to those used by Formula 1 cars, featuring pushrod operated on-board coil-over shocks. This centralizes and reduces unsprung weight. The structure of the vehicle is mostly of composites, with selected components made from metals such as aluminum. The rear swingarm is single sided and is currently made from metal. Each of the three wheels are 14" and are regularly available off-the-shelf components, as are the tires. The motor is a three-phase AC unit, and it drives the rear wheel via a low-resistance belt. On-board video screens show the driver an eye-level 360 degree view of the world behind you, using lens-free cameras integrated into the rear of the vehicle.
From a design standpoint, the Aptera team seems to have all their bases covered. We hope that production starts up in October as planned and will be sure to keep you updated whenever any additional news is ready to be released. Until then, if any of our readers have any specific questions, feel free to leave them in the comments and, if possible, we'll get you the answers.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
10-02-2007 @ 10:22AM
bhook said...
Want more information on this vehicle..I am extremely interested and want one.....
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10-02-2007 @ 10:26AM
bhook said...
I currently tour the United States on a motorcycle and am looking for an alternative ride...This is great....Need one now...
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10-02-2007 @ 10:41AM
bhook said...
I currently tour the states on a motorcycle and extremely interested in alternative way to travel..........I WANT ONE NOW......
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10-02-2007 @ 12:43PM
EV Rider said...
It would be interesting for lots of people to get to meet Aptera up close and personal (and to hear from Mr. Steve Fambro).
I hope he accepts the Electric Vehicle Association of San Diego's invitation to be their guest at the Electric Dragin EVent at Barona Raceway.
Well, www.electricdragin.com of course.
See you there.
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10-02-2007 @ 12:57PM
Schmeltz said...
Mr. Fambro, a Mr. George Jetson just called...he wants his car back!
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10-02-2007 @ 1:47PM
tim said...
This will get you all the attention you could want.
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10-02-2007 @ 1:53PM
Aviv said...
FASCINATING vehicle...but the questions in my mind are:
1) Will Aptera be able to survive the intial low volume period, when celebrities, environmentalists and pioneer consumers purchase the vehicle, with the bulk of the market lagging behind?
(I certainly hope so. I'd like to own a 'Land Jet' like this one in my life).
2) Why is the photovoltaic panel not wider/ longer as to provide more charging?
3) What are the vehicle distribution plans - sold only in CA? Elsewhere?
Thanks
Aviv S
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10-02-2007 @ 1:54PM
Snowdog said...
How wide compared to a standard car?
Does it have windshield wipers? (I haven't seen any in pics)
Can you run the hybrid if you don't have access to a plug in? (Many apartment dwellers)
In which case what are ballpark MPG without plug in?
I have some concerns about motorcycle designation removing safety and emission requirements.
Safety:
Has it been tested for cross wind stability (lightweight wing concerns me)?
High speed emergency maneuvers stability.
Any kind of crash testing?
Emissions:
Will the engine have a catalytic converter, particulate filter? I am not concerned about carbon emissions, but more direct pollutants that affect breathing. Basically I don't want a high emission lawn mower engine defeating the purpose.
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10-02-2007 @ 1:55PM
GoodCheer said...
I know some of this stuff is 'confidential', and some may not have been fully worked out yet, but I do have some questions:
Emissions: I think those who are interested in a vehicle that is so responsible in terms of consumption will also be interested in being responsible in terms of emissions. If the engine is more than 280cc there are motorcycle emission standards in CA, will the Aptera meet those? Federal automotive emission standards? 50 State (CA / New England) automotive standards?
Stability: I like the ‘tadpole’ configuration better than the ‘delta’, because if you panic and hit the breaks your stability increases. What is the limit of stability (in lateral g) before the inside wheel comes off the ground under full throttle? With a 300# driver and a right hand turn? On dry pavement does the wheel lift or does the vehicle slide?
Living with it: I would love for the Aptera to be a car for every day. What is the total width at those two front wheel pods? Will that fit into a standard garage door? If you plug it in to a low current outlet, will it blow the fuse (ie. how smart is the charger?) How is the charging port protected from a battery short if you accidentally touch it? I know in New Mexico you wouldn’t worry about it, but is there a heater of any kind?
Drive Train:
Is the ICE going to be gas or diesel? (is this your final answer, this seems to have been going back and forth?) How much of the hybrid battery capacity will be depleted before the generator turns on?
Driving It:
What is the cabin noise level at highway cruising speed? From the generator? What electric range is reasonable to expect? What steady-state fuel mileage is reasonable to expect? What does it feel like when a semi passes at 85mph on the highway?
Maintaining It:
What size tires does it use? How long is it reasonable to expect the batteries to last, what might a new pack cost (I know it’s hard to speculate given the rapid changes taking place in the world of batteries)? Will there be an hour counter on the generator to help in estimating maintenance intervals?
Marketing / Buying:
When and where will we be able to see an test drive an Aptera? How will maintenance be provided? What will the warranties look like?
Thanks
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10-02-2007 @ 2:45PM
Susan said...
Where does the license plate go I live in NY which has 2. They want to see you going and coming. Can you drive this in snow and ice???? I have wanted one since I saw it last year. I think its cute.
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10-02-2007 @ 3:32PM
GoodCheer said...
Susan: Anything with less than four wheels is a motorcycle, and motorcycles don't need forward facing plates. The rear plate is about half the size of a car's plate. I think that little spot in the middle of the rear (where the grey Aptera logo is) will hold it.
You will need a motorcycle license (which are pretty easy to get). It will also be MUCH less expensive to insure.
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10-02-2007 @ 4:09PM
Snowdog said...
Motorcycle issues vary state to state. I don't know about easy to get, I would imagine some states require road test with a motorcycle. Some states might even require you to wear a helmet when driving this (which would kill it IMO).
Any three wheel vehicle is going to be trouble in snow, best to consider this a 3 season vehicle if you live in the snow belt.
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10-02-2007 @ 4:33PM
Phil L. said...
Yeah, I've wondered about 3-wheeled EVs like the Xebra, which are considered motorcycles in most states.
Is it permissible to get a motorcycle license in such states while "riding" a 3-wheeled vehicle for your exam? Can a typical motorcycle exam (which may include things like cone-slalom tests) even be passed by a 3-wheeled vehicle? This could be a hindrance for those who are interested in vehicles like this - but don't have the ability or desire to ride a two-wheeled vehicle, even if only for the time required to get a license.
Does anyone know if helmet laws are enforced for such 3-wheeled, enclosed "motorcycles"?
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10-02-2007 @ 4:44PM
Zigster said...
Solar AC? Yeah right - where is the 500sqft of panels?
I am more convinced then ever that this is a hoax.
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10-02-2007 @ 5:29PM
TIMMAH! said...
Suggestion for the Aptera website: Less Artsy, more Direct Info!
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10-02-2007 @ 6:41PM
Mark said...
Heck with it. I took a chance and put my money where my mouth (and heart) are. Typ-1 #120 is mine.
The rest of you are in line after me.
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10-02-2007 @ 7:23PM
shmuupy said...
Note that statements like may be very misleading: "The doors and roof exceed all specifications required by law." If this is classified as a motorcycle, are there any requirements? I doubt it. This seems like a cool concept but I get the feeling like the company is sleezy.
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10-02-2007 @ 7:29PM
William said...
some thoughts,
they used to make airplanes from composites. (wood, fabric, etc.) then they made them with metals (aluminum, etc.) now they are back to composites (787 dreamliner). so, on to the future!
also, i heard a story about a 3 wheel fanatic that converted an accord sedan to one wheel. he would take auto journalists around without telling them it was three wheels until after (backed into the parking space).
wild!
W
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10-02-2007 @ 8:01PM
Scott said...
oops!
one wheel IN THE REAR. Doh! typo land.
sorry.
W
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10-02-2007 @ 8:01PM
Scott said...
oops!
one wheel IN THE REAR. Doh! typo land.
sorry.
W
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