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I'm sure the first and second laws of thermodynamics will prove that it takes more energy to do that than you get out.

It would be so much easier to combat this whole global warming thing if scientists would just invent some magic already

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The video of the Kanzius discovery showed a vivid yellow "flame", indicating light from energized sodium ions. Hydrogen burns clear, with little or no light produced.

Bombarded by intense radio waves, the salt water comes to a boil producing a spray of salt water, which then provides a conductive path for RF arcing, similar to arcing from a tesla coil.

Yes, it still obeys the laws of thermodynamics. The energy input via RF waves is greater than the energy out in the form of usable heat and light.

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Heresy! Heresy! The world is flat and is the center of all things! Sickness comes from the devil! Man cannot fly! He cannot go faster than sound! The moon is made out of cheese! Man can never go there! The laws of thermodynamics first contemplated from horse and buggy in the 1800s are complete and correct. Heresy I say!!!! We know everything! Close the patent office. It is a waste of taxpayer money as all things have already been invented.

If a new form of energy is discovered that competes with the status quo powerbase, don’t worry as the DOD or established scientific community fossils will quickly kill it. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

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if your interested here is a link to the youtube.com video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6vSxR6UKFM

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Water is burnt hydrogen. The reason there's so much of it is because there's no energy left to extract. If you want to split it, you need to invest soem other form of energy, yielding hydrogen as the useful energy *carrier*.

Why is that so hard for ABG to understand? Please stop wasting your reader's time with these perpetual motion machine BS stories.

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Yes, reality does have a way of striking back at those who would rather live in a dreamworld.

Fact is, to trigger the "Kanzius effect" requires a very intense beam of radio frequency waves, and it requires a lot of electrical power to generate that beam. Lower intensity won't do it. The output is a little flickering yellow light and just enough heat to run a pretty toy stirling engine. Power input greatly exceeds power output, and all the rants about "Heresy" and "flat earth" won't change that.

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Wow, he invented a microwave!! Imagine the possibilities! I bet you could even cook food with that thing.

This really does go to show the degree of wishful thinking there is out there. I'm about 90% sure that Chris M is right. My only question is why the water in the tube goes nuts while the water in his hand doesn't. Perhaps a greater wavelength is required to excite the H20 based on the salinity? I certainly don't know, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to find out from this particular Chemistry professor at Penn State...that doesn't look much like a hydrogen flame to me.

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Yep, your patient bursting into flames is pretty "novel"

>"part of a novel cancer treatment"

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Paul, that puzzled me, too, until I realized that the test tube filled with conductive salt water may be just the right size and shape to act as a simple dipole antenna, greatly improving the absorbtion of the radio waves.

Needless to say, if the process had somehow produced H2 and O2 gas, Mr. Kanzius would have been in a world of hurt when he stuck his hand in the beam!

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I doubt this will be the end of all fossil related tech.

But just like a Hybrid system uses a motor and electric to better mileage. Couldn't this be used as something in conjuction with other technologies to improve mileage?

like a plug-in hybrid with hydrogen generator?

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Takes more power to run the microwave than the heat of the flame will produce - this idea is no better than ethanol.

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Every breakthroughs in hydrogen technology worth a lot if we want to explore this kind of energy. Maybe this new discovery can lead to a heating device that take few energy input. It maybe can lead to a new engine too. We don't know all the numbers yet.

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"If a new form of energy is discovered that competes with the status quo powerbase, don’t worry as the DOD or established scientific community fossils will quickly kill it."

The scientific community and DOD are clearly in collusion with those wily laws of thermodynamics. It's a conspiracy, I tell ya!

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Rustum Roy's a known crackpot, but usually he's limited his bloviations to homeopathy and "Christian health" - whatever that is.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=88831

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Salt water conducts, radio waves induce a current in a conductive medium. That current disassociates hydrogen and oxygen in the water, probably some of the sodium and chlorine as well. A stoichiometric mixture of hydrogen and oxygen does burn hot but you get no more energy then you put into electrolyzing the water, less in fact because the process is not 100% efficient. I don't understand why this non-discovery was published.

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This is old news as I already figured this out and use the fuel in my car as well as I am an astronaut farmer and it propels my ship in to space already..lol

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Everyone is looking at this so cockeyed the numbers on the dial in the video don't mean a thing. Until the equation is defined. There are so many ways that the process could be refined. It is silly to talk laws when the effect has not yet been truly measured yet. Even it takes more energy in than you get out it still could be useful. What matters is how much.

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